Comments on: Videoblog: Drum Shield http://www.cordernotes.com/blog/blog/videoblog-drum-shield thoughts regarding art, music, and technology Thu, 02 Feb 2012 13:54:26 +0000 hourly 1 By: Erik Luper http://www.cordernotes.com/blog/blog/videoblog-drum-shield/comment-page-1#comment-2539 Erik Luper Mon, 18 May 2009 22:38:52 +0000 http://www.cordernotes.com/blog/?p=654#comment-2539 The dreaded stage wide hard surface back drop during set change week. Believe me, I feel your pain (or headache, take your pick). We only have 2 drummers and we had the long talk of “If you DON’T control yourself, the shield WILL go back up!” They don’t like the shield so everything has worked out so far. The dreaded stage wide hard surface back drop during set change week. Believe me, I feel your pain (or headache, take your pick). We only have 2 drummers and we had the long talk of “If you DON’T control yourself, the shield WILL go back up!” They don’t like the shield so everything has worked out so far.

]]> By: timcorder http://www.cordernotes.com/blog/blog/videoblog-drum-shield/comment-page-1#comment-2513 timcorder Sun, 17 May 2009 01:21:01 +0000 http://www.cordernotes.com/blog/?p=654#comment-2513 Good thoughts. We certainly go back and forth on whether to use a shield or not. The biggest challenge that we have is 8 different drummers playing on our stage a month (each weekend or midweek has a different band) and needing a consistent mix at FOH for broadcast. No shield usually means putting less of the kit in the house, which translates to weak drums on the recordings. The only times we have significant artifacts in the mix that I would blame in part on the shield are when we put a large screen directly behind the kit. As long as we don't do that, you're right that the stage is big enough to not do too much damage. Good thoughts. We certainly go back and forth on whether to use a shield or not. The biggest challenge that we have is 8 different drummers playing on our stage a month (each weekend or midweek has a different band) and needing a consistent mix at FOH for broadcast. No shield usually means putting less of the kit in the house, which translates to weak drums on the recordings. The only times we have significant artifacts in the mix that I would blame in part on the shield are when we put a large screen directly behind the kit. As long as we don’t do that, you’re right that the stage is big enough to not do too much damage.

]]> By: Erik Luper http://www.cordernotes.com/blog/blog/videoblog-drum-shield/comment-page-1#comment-2485 Erik Luper Sat, 16 May 2009 18:35:02 +0000 http://www.cordernotes.com/blog/?p=654#comment-2485 Believe it or not we took our drum shield down and it was the best decision we ever made. One of the issues that we found with the Venue is the preamps are so clean that we were getting all of the comb filtering and phase artifacts from the shield in our main mix (SM81's on hat and ride, KM184's for overheads). Couldn't figure out what the problem was until we took the shield down. Our drummer has to be much more disciplined, but it made him a better player too. I know that Stagl has a large enough stage to pull it off, and it looks like you do to Tim. Give it a try during rehearsal one day and see what you think. Believe it or not we took our drum shield down and it was the best decision we ever made. One of the issues that we found with the Venue is the preamps are so clean that we were getting all of the comb filtering and phase artifacts from the shield in our main mix (SM81′s on hat and ride, KM184′s for overheads). Couldn’t figure out what the problem was until we took the shield down.

Our drummer has to be much more disciplined, but it made him a better player too. I know that Stagl has a large enough stage to pull it off, and it looks like you do to Tim. Give it a try during rehearsal one day and see what you think.

]]> By: Chris B http://www.cordernotes.com/blog/blog/videoblog-drum-shield/comment-page-1#comment-2175 Chris B Fri, 08 May 2009 18:12:46 +0000 http://www.cordernotes.com/blog/?p=654#comment-2175 Man...I'd love to know where I could get that much plexiglass for $240. I got a quote from a local glass company for a 7x5' front piece and 2 4x5' side pieces and it was $470 plus tax (cut to those sizes). Thanks for the video. I came across that blog post on the Northpoint tech site about this design and we're contemplating it for our church How is it dealing with the sound bouncing back off the plexi behind the kit? I see you're not using any type of baffling in front - does it not seem to matter? Man…I’d love to know where I could get that much plexiglass for $240. I got a quote from a local glass company for a 7×5′ front piece and 2 4×5′ side pieces and it was $470 plus tax (cut to those sizes).

Thanks for the video. I came across that blog post on the Northpoint tech site about this design and we’re contemplating it for our church

How is it dealing with the sound bouncing back off the plexi behind the kit? I see you’re not using any type of baffling in front – does it not seem to matter?

]]> By: timcorder http://www.cordernotes.com/blog/blog/videoblog-drum-shield/comment-page-1#comment-1482 timcorder Thu, 23 Apr 2009 05:12:24 +0000 http://www.cordernotes.com/blog/?p=654#comment-1482 Local plastics supplier. Check Google for your area or Yahoo Local looking for plastics/plexiglass. Much cheaper to find it locally because its not practical to ship a 7ft x 5ft package. Local plastics supplier. Check Google for your area or Yahoo Local looking for plastics/plexiglass. Much cheaper to find it locally because its not practical to ship a 7ft x 5ft package.

]]> By: jordan http://www.cordernotes.com/blog/blog/videoblog-drum-shield/comment-page-1#comment-1477 jordan Thu, 23 Apr 2009 02:54:01 +0000 http://www.cordernotes.com/blog/?p=654#comment-1477 where did you purchase your sheets of plexiglass? where did you purchase your sheets of plexiglass?

]]> By: Bryan Nelson http://www.cordernotes.com/blog/blog/videoblog-drum-shield/comment-page-1#comment-1100 Bryan Nelson Sun, 12 Apr 2009 03:02:26 +0000 http://www.cordernotes.com/blog/?p=654#comment-1100 Thanks for sharing this. Should have seen this before dropping several Benjamins on the ones we got. I'm going to love your videos...can learn so much easier when you can see what you are talking about. Appreicate the time and effort. By the way, we may be adopting the digital grand in a shell soon. Thanks for the tip off to that as well. Thanks for sharing this. Should have seen this before dropping several Benjamins on the ones we got. I’m going to love your videos…can learn so much easier when you can see what you are talking about. Appreicate the time and effort.

By the way, we may be adopting the digital grand in a shell soon. Thanks for the tip off to that as well.

]]> By: Dave Stagl http://www.cordernotes.com/blog/blog/videoblog-drum-shield/comment-page-1#comment-937 Dave Stagl Sat, 04 Apr 2009 15:57:19 +0000 http://www.cordernotes.com/blog/?p=654#comment-937 And I have to give props to Chris Briley because he's the one who handed it down to me. And I have to give props to Chris Briley because he’s the one who handed it down to me.

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